Harold Crews and Dr. Michael Hill, President of the League of the South, discuss the only real issue facing the world and in particular the West today. That issue is whether the solution to the crisis we are facing is Nationalism or Globalism. They discuss the origins of globalist universalism; how it's spread through free trade, exporting entertainment, and mass immigration; who is primarily responsible for pushing it in politics, international finance, and the media; and how civic nationalism is in actuality a mere variation on universalist internationalism. Their conversation is not all gloom and doom. Far from it as a matter of fact. They discuss the rise of authentic blood and soil nationalist movements across the West and how this new awakening offers hope to our people. The conversation is concluded on how Southern nationalism is a necessary counter measure to the inevitable globalism and civic nationalism in the United States.